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New SAAB!

Postby metrognome » Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:30 am

New to me anyway.

Here's the 2007 9-3 we picked up in Ft. Pierce last night. I think we got a great deal on it, and it's in almost perfect condition with only 33,003 miles on it.
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Re: New SAAB!

Postby GB24Hours » Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:55 am

AWESOME!!!!!

Can't wait to see it tomorrow at Harry's in St. Augustine! ;)

Is this the Ft. Pierce one? How did you hear about it?
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Re: New SAAB!

Postby metrognome » Sat Jan 01, 2011 3:58 pm

Hey Glenn, I am thinking I probably will come tomorrow, so you will most likely get to see it. I have only gotten an RSVP from Bruce, but I am also hoping James will be there based on the fact that he lives nearby. Ted may or may not be there.

This is the Ft. Pierce car. They actually held it for us for about three days, and the sales guy got a lot of grief from the other sales reps and one of the managers about it. They had one other person who wanted to buy the car, but they gave us first right of refusal on it since we were coming from so far away. Seems like it was worth the drive, as we got it for about $2-3K less than comparable cars are going for. We saw it on Auto Trader. It pays to shop around!

One cool thing I just realized about this car is that it's a high output turbo (with a capital T on the back), so it's no slouch on the highway. It has more HP than my 9-5 did!
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Re: New SAAB!

Postby Senor Don » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:37 pm

Scott,

Your new 9-3 looks great! I have to say, quite a step up from your 9-5. Seems like you got an extremely good deal.


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Re: New SAAB!

Postby rksubbu » Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:22 pm

Hey Congrats ! Looks great!

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Re: New SAAB!

Postby TheDude » Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:10 am

Looks sweet. Sorry I didn't get to see it at Harry's...
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Re: New SAAB!

Postby metrognome » Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:31 pm

Hopefully next time, James.
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Re: New SAAB!

Postby TheDude » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:47 pm

More pictures!!!! Like the blue.
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Re: New SAAB!

Postby metrognome » Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:34 pm

I'll try to take more pictures this weekend or something, James. It's very interesting comparing this car to the 9-5. On the outside, the 9-3 sport sedan looks a lot like a smaller 9-5, but they have little in common in terms of driving experience. This car reminds me a lot of my dearly departed '98 VW Jetta (but faster and with better seats) and the 2001 VW passat my wife used to drive. This is a good thing in some ways, but there are aspects of the 9-5 I already miss greatly. I keep reaching for the window controls in the center console. My wife is pleased, I miss them. Sadly, I think the early 9-5s were better than the later 9-5s (2006-2009) and current 9-3s in the department of smoothness of ride and interior materials. Too bad about the sludge and all that. On the other hand, I think the 9-3 is a great car despite it feeling a lot like a VW (which I know would make millions of die-hard SAABisti cringe).

Anyway, here's a couple minor issues I want to ask about.

1. When I go over bumps in the road at medium to high speeds I get a metalic "clink" sound from somewher outside the car. I can only hear it if the windows are open. I don't think this is the infamous "clunk" sound from the front suspension that this car is known for. This seems to be coming from the back end, as it only happens when the rear wheels hit the bumps. I tested this car over speed bumps (at low speeds) before I bought it, listening for "the clunk" and got nothing. This only happens at higher speeds, and it's more common over smaller bumps, especially repetitive ones. It was all over the place in downtown St. Augustine, which I think may have been cobblestone in some places. Anyone know what this may be? At first I thought it was the stupid license plate frame the dealer put on the car, but after messing with that a bit the other night, I don't think that's it.

2. The back doors don't unlock from the inside unless you hit the unlock button twice. Can this be changed with Tech 2? I remember the good ol' days when lock meant "lock" and unlock meant "unlock." Of course, that was when you could actually turn off your headlights, but I digress.

3. How do I set my automatic climate control to be OFF (no fan, no heat, no compressor, no defroster) when I start the car? I tried setting this up in "settings" on the SID, but it doesn't seem to be working entirely. Not all of us need "automatic comfort" the instant we start the car. See Question number 2, section B.

Yes, I know I sound like a grouchy old man. Thank you for your support.
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Re: New SAAB!

Postby GB24Hours » Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:35 pm

#1: Snug down the spare tire and jack/wrench stuff? -OR- Is there a Saab toolkit back there somewhere?

As far as "ride" is concerned, keep in mind that a 9-3 is always going to be stiffer and taughter than a 9-5 due to the sport vs. luxury goals.

I like the amount of feedback from both the road AND engine I get through the wheel and my seat. 9-5 are more isolated.
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Re: New SAAB!

Postby StrictlySaab » Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:02 am

1- Agree, check anything in the trunk which may be bouncing around first. I had a weird squeak in the rear end of a '06 9-3 last month. Ended up after diag one of the lower control arm camber adjustment bolts was not tightened properly from the alignment the client had got at a tire shop a month prior. Moved the adjustment to match the LH side, tightened it up all fixed.

2- Not certain if this is an adjustment in the T2 or not (there really is too many uncommon adjustments in there to keep track of). Only have one '03+ 9-3 here now, a '08 Vert so cant look into rear door locking logic right now. Next one that comes in will look though programming menu for RDCM (rear door control module) and see what is available.

From WIS for 07 locking logic...
"Both front doors have a central locking button for locking and unlocking. During locking all doors are locked if the drivers door is closed. If any of the subsequent doors are closed, they will remain locked. During unlocking of a car for the US market, only the door with an activated button will be unlocked with the first press of the button. When the button is pressed a second time, the other doors will be unlocked and the boot lid handle will be activated. For the other markets, all doors and filler cap will be unlocked and the boot handle activated with the first press of the button. The buttons are not active if the car is locked with the remote control."

From this, there *may* be a setting in there to switch lock logic to a different market, perhaps re-adding that control module and selecting a market beside the US/CA.

3- Check the owners manual. Believe there is a customize key sequence for locking the startup of the ACC to whatever you preset (temp, air flow, recirc etc). Know off the top of my head the og9-5 ACC you make the adjustments to your desired settings, press and hold the defrost and off button for 2 seconds. The display flashes then you turn off the vehicle for a min of 10min to set the program to the ACC. The control panel on 07+ 9-3s is much cleaner and simplified with fewer buttons so probably quite different. Looked though WIS but did not see anything specific for custom settings.
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Re: New SAAB!

Postby metrognome » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:04 am

Hey guys. Thanks for the responses. Yes, the 9-5 and 9-3 have different goals. I like both. I wish I could have one of each. A 9-5 for long road trips -- (Stop for gas? we don't need no stinking gas, we have a 20 gallon gas tank!); and a 9-3 for around town. The 9-5 also has comfier seats, but I'm getting accustomed to these pretty quickly, I think.

The sound seems to be coming from the outside of the car. I don't think it's in the trunk, but I'll check the spare and jack. This morning, the sound actually became rhythmic and the speed was dependent on the speed of the car. I got out twice to see if something was stuck in or on one of my tires, but I didn't find anything. The rhythmic part went away shortly, and it went back to happening only when I went over bumps. I think I need someone to get it on a lift and check it out. Could this be a wheel bearing, perhaps?

My ACC was completely off this morning when I started the car, so I'm confused as to what the deal is with this!
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Re: New SAAB!

Postby GB24Hours » Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:40 pm

metrognome wrote:I like both. I wish I could have one of each.

There you go... dilemma solved.

metrognome wrote:I think I need someone to get it on a lift and check it out.

Is Chris back at AIT?

metrognome wrote:Could this be a wheel bearing, perhaps?

I'm not an expert, but it doesn't sound like it.


metrognome wrote:My ACC was completely off this morning when I started the car, so I'm confused as to what the deal is with this!

Maybe the changes you tried to make yesterday took effect when the key was "off" for a more extended period.
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Re: New SAAB!

Postby metrognome » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:16 pm

Ok, here's an update on the new car and the weird suspension sounds from the rear. I finally took it to Coggin Chevrolet at the Avenues since the car has a 30 day Coggin warranty on it. The Coggin dealer in Ft. Pierce put new brakes on the rear before they sold it. I was getting an intermittant ticking sound from what I think was the rear on the passenger side. It would go away when the e-brake or regular brakes were applied, then come back when brakes were released. The Chevy dealer said the brake hardware has just "a little movement" in it, but it's not rubbing against the wheel or anything. They said it was normal. I wasn't going to argue with them about it, but I don't really think this is normal. Anyone else think this is normal?

The "metallic squeak" I was getting was apparently due to the fact that this car had once had a trailer hitch installed, and there were some bolts that were not removed, and there were inserts that had been stuck into the rear springs for the express purpose of keeping the rear level when towing something. Perfectly normal for towing purposes, apparently, but they did make the ride a little rougher than normal, and they apparently contributed to the noise when going over bumps. I think they also raised up the rear end a bit, as I thought the rear end looked too high before, and now it looks normal. I thought I heard the noise still today after work, but it seemed much less pronounced, and I had a harder time reproducing it. It will take a few days to be sure.

I think I have the AC figured out, but I definitely want the doors to all unlock at the same time! Other than that, the car is good!
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Re: New SAAB!

Postby stevehayes01 » Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:13 am

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Re: New SAAB!

Postby GB24Hours » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:21 am

Scott's not happy unless he's not happy.

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Re: New SAAB!

Postby metrognome » Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:32 am

Oh, give me a break! I'm just a little squeamish about stuff after the last car, that's all!
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Re: New SAAB!

Postby metrognome » Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:29 am

Just wanted to let you guys know that it's not my imagination, and I'm not anal retentive (no matter what Ted says). Other 9-3 owners are having issues with the "chirp" heard when going over bumps. It's brake related, apparently. I jacked up my car today, and when I spun the wheel, I got a "woosh, woosh, woosh sound, so something's rubbing unevenly, and this sound is triggered or stopped when going over small bumps or cracked/uneven pavement.

http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/showt ... ost1926278
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Re: New SAAB!

Postby metrognome » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:21 pm

Hey guys, just to rub it in, my rear brake pads were in backwards. Thank you, Coggin Honda of Ft. Pierce for that little trick. Chris at AIT put them back in correctly, and voilà, no more funny sounds from the rear end. Anal retentive, or keenly in tune with my SAAB? Hmmm????? ;)
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